In podcast episode 3 we interview Ulrich Fluhme about PEDs in running. Uli, who ran a 2:33:33 NYC Marathon for the Central Park Track Club in 2009, shares provocative views about drug use in the sport and forward-thinking ideas for cleaning it up. Elsewhere in the episode we trace the performance statistics that have raised suspicion of drug use, Brenn checks out Roger Robinson’s “Running in Literature” from the library, and Gregg asks the Swedes to come up with new graded categories for runners with certain challenges.